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It hasn’t taken America very long to forget Watergate
and what it was all about: the abuse of presidential power.
President Richard M. Nixon not only ordered a burglary
at the Democratic National Committee headquarters in 1972,
but had been using the National Security Agency to spy
on Americans, particularly anti-war protesters. But there’s
a small historical irony here that author James Bamford
never misses a chance to point out.
On the day in 1970 that Nixon called the chief of the
NSA into the Oval Office and ordered him to start eavesdropping
on Americans, even Nixon didn’t know that he was
merely authorizing something the agency and its predecessors
had been doing illegally since World War I.
Bamford knows because he’s spent most of his career
researching the super-snooper agency, writing the first
book ever published on the NSA – 1979’s The
Puzzle Palace – which he followed in 2001 with Body
of Secrets. In between, the hard-nosed Bamford became
a gumshoe on national security issues as a producer for
ABC’s “World News Tonight.”
When The New York Times revealed in late 2005 that President
Bush had authorized the NSA to spy on Americans after
the Sept. 11 attacks, it didn’t take Bamford long
to join a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties
Union, which is trying to stop the warrantless surveillance.
The ACLU won a round for the Fourth Amendment in Detroit
last August, when a federal judge rejected White House
arguments that rested, in part, on “inherent”
presidential powers to search and seize in time of war.
On Jan. 31, the ACLU and Bush Administration argued the
case in Cincinnati before the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals,
which has yet to rule.
The same day, The New York Times printed an editorial
by Bamford outlining a little-known law passed in the
wake of Watergate. It specifically prohibits warrantless
surveillance of Americans, even by the president –
something the writer pointed to as solid grounds for impeachment.
“If you look at the past cases,” Bamford says,
“Richard Nixon was impeached for something much
more minor.”
I was surprised to learn that there is a long history
of telecom companies cooperating with the NSA. Talk about
that.
It’s not really common knowledge, but . . . this
has been going on for almost a hundred years. After World
War I, after censorship was lifted, the predecessor to
the NSA, which at the time was called the Black Chamber
— that was a civilian organization charged with
code breaking and interception of communications —
faced a similar problem. They needed access to all the
telecommunications in order to sift through it to find
out information they wanted. The head of the Black Chamber,
Herbert O. Yardley, personally went to the heads of the
various telecom companies. At the time, they were mostly
interested in telegrams, so they went to Western Union
and a number of the other telegraph companies, and they
got the secret cooperation for those companies to turn
over, both secretly and illegally . . . whatever telecommunications
the Black Chamber wanted. That only ended when a newly
incoming Secretary of State, Henry Stimson, closed down
the Black Chamber. But then it started up again after
World War II [when] the head of the successor of the Black
Chamber — at the time it was called the Signal Security
Agency — did exactly the same thing. Gen. [William
Preston] Corderman went to the heads of the individual
telecom companies, Western Union and so forth, and worked
out very secret, very illegal agreements whereby they
would turn over to this government agency — without
any warrants, without notice to anybody — all the
telecommunications going in and out of the company, which
is millions of communications to and from Americans in
the U.S. That lasted 30 years . . . Eventually when things
became computerized, it involved turning over computer
tapes of every telegram entering and leaving or going
through the United States, all without a single warrant.
[So] NSA for decades had been eavesdropping on communications
illegally, spying on people, reading their telegrams,
[and] listening to phone calls without going for a warrant.
And that ended when? After the investigations by [the
late] Sen. Frank Church?
The Church Committees were mostly in the 1975 time period
when the anger and discovery of all this took place and,
then, it took three years of hearings before they finally
worked out a mechanism whereby both the Republicans and
the Democrats — liberals and conservatives —
agreed on a method to prevent this from happening again.
And the way they did it was by creating this act, called
the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act [or FISA], and
that act did two key things. One of them was to create
a very secret federal court system, known as the Federal
Intelligence Surveillance Court, as a mechanism for which
the agencies would have to get warrants and, number two,
to put teeth in it, it created a penalty for presidents
or heads of NSA or people who are in a capacity to violate
it. The criminal sanction was five years in prison and/or
a $10,000 fine for every violation. So it did that in
1978, for the specific purpose of preventing what happened
. . . after 9/11 simply because the president came out
and said I think we should bypass the FISA act and begin
domestic surveillance.
What’s the secret FISA court supposed to do?
The FISA court was created to force the NSA to begin complying
with the law, to go before a judge and have a judge —
an impartial judge — decide whether a person is
eligible to be eavesdropped on by NSA. The way it was
before the court [existed], NSA made the decision.
I understand it wasn’t difficult to get a FISA warrant,
so what was the White House’s rationale for going
around it?
No, getting a FISA court warrant was probably the easiest
thing in the world. Out of nearly 20,000 applications
for warrants, the government has only been turned down
less than five times. That’s a pretty good ratio….
The government has two real reasons — or two excuses
— for going around the FISA court. One is the Congressional
authorization to use force. That was the legislation passed
after 9/11 authorizing the president to basically go after
al-Qaida, go after the people who committed 9/11. But
you talk to Republicans in Congress and even they say
that we never contemplated that NSA was going to be a
part of this. I mean, [they say] using NSA domestically
has nothing to do with what our original authorization
was…. The second argument was that it is within
the President’s inherent powers to be able to do
this. There are certain things that are within a President’s
inherent powers. They are very few and far between. But
one of the things that cuts out a President’s inherent
authority is when Congress creates a law overriding any
inherent authority, and that’s exactly what they
did by creating the FISA. [The federal judge in Detroit
said] if you want to eavesdrop on persons in the United
States, there is only one way you can do it, and that’s
by getting a warrant from the FISA court. There is no
inherent power. There is no creation of these artificial
laws like the authorization to use force.
In the computer age, we’re no longer talking about
listening to individual phone calls. What is data mining
and how extensive is it?
Data mining is one the most serious issues facing the
country right now in terms of privacy and in terms of
people just living normal lives because the technology
has so outpaced the law. Nobody right now has even a clue
of the extent to which the government can do data mining.
What makes it very dangerous is that it goes well beyond
what George Orwell wrote about in 1984, [in which] they
had a big screen and they could watch people. What you
can do with data mining is [use computer and bank records
to] see what people are doing right now by seeing what
restaurants they are going to, what hotels they are staying
at…. They could see five years ago which websites
I was visiting, what emails did I send, and what emails
did I get. The government can have a record anytime it
wants of literally every movement that you’ve made,
which largely would be recorded these days in one way
or another. That’s a very scary thought.
But I often hear people say, “If I’m not breaking
the law, it doesn’t matter if the government knows
what I’m doing.”
I know. I hear that all the time. It’s just
the ultimate falsity in logic, but look at the way the
system works. How many people are there now on the “do
not fly list?” There are 40,000 people. One of
those people was Ted Kennedy. It took him eight months
to get off and he was only able to get off because he
was a U.S. senator. The really insidious aspect of this
is that you don’t know if you are on there. Suppose
you just moved into 12 Maple Avenue. You’ve never
done anything wrong. You’re a perfect, upstanding
U.S. citizen. You’re a Boy Scout. You go to church
every Sunday. There is nothing in your life that you
think would be suspicious to the NSA. The problem is
that the person who just moved out of 12 Maple Ave.
had a subscription to [the Arab news magazine] AlJazeera,
communicated with Afghanistan three times a week, and
had visitors at 3 o’clock in the morning. That
person was suspicious to the intelligence community.
Now, all of a sudden in the data mining, your name gets
associated with 12 Maple Ave. and 12 Maple Ave. is associated
with somebody suspected of possible terrorism. You don’t
know it, but now you’re on some black list in
the bowels of the NSA. Now suppose your son wants to
go to the Naval Academy. Well, they’re going to
do a background search and — lo and behold —
they’re going to find out that your name is on
a black list. Your son isn’t going to get into
Annapolis and you’re not going to know why. Or
you apply for a Small Business Administration loan and
you don’t get it. Or they turn you back at the
airport. You’re not going to be told why ….
Those are real things. Those actually happen to people.
The people that allow this to happen, the people that
create the atmosphere for this to take place, are precisely
the people that feel that “I am an upstanding,
law-abiding person, so I don’t care what the government
does to anybody else because I am a good guy and nobody
is going to come after me. “
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